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		<title>Batman:  No Man&#8217;s Land</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 01:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bluedevil2002]]></dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[Azrael]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[The complete No Man's Land epic from 1999.]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve included all of the No Man&#8217;s Land issues except for the Robin tie-ins.  I felt that those issues did not add much to the overall story, and in some places caused more continuity headaches than they were worth.  So, we have Legends of the Dark Knight (LOTDK), Shadow of the Bat (SOTB), Batman, Detective Comics, Batman Chronicles, Azrael:  Agent of the Bat, Nightwing, and Catwoman.  Specials include No Man&#8217;s Land #0-1, Young Justice in NML, Batman:  Harley Quinn.  There are also two optional issues of JLA that can be included.  I&#8217;m not including any Batman comics that take place during NML, but are part of larger DC events and don&#8217;t reference NML itself (i.e. the Batman JLApe Annual and Day of Judgement tie-in).</p>
<p>I also used this site as a resource:  <a href="http://batman-superman.tripod.com/pob/nmlguide1.htm">http://batman-superman.tripod.com/pob/nmlguide1.htm</a>  It summarizes all of NML (with spoilers).  I don&#8217;t completely agree with it, but it&#8217;s a good starting reference.  It also explains some of my reasoning about putting certain issues in certain places.</p>
<p>We start with the prelude volume.</p>
<p><strong>Road to No Man&#8217;s Land</strong><br />
Azrael #47<br />
SOTB #80<br />
Batman #560<br />
Detective #727<br />
Azrael #48<br />
SOTB #81<br />
Batman #561<br />
Detective #728<br />
Azrael #49<br />
SOTB #82<br />
Batman #562<br />
Detective #729<br />
NML #0<br />
Batman Chronicles #16 (stories 2-3 / first story is included in &#8220;Aftershock&#8221;)</p>
<p><em>NML #0 could be a tough one, since it does spoil some of the mysteries of the first half of NML.  But that goes to personal preference.  If you&#8217;ve read it all before, there&#8217;s no reason not to put it there.</em></p>
<p>And now, the main event&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>Volume 1</strong><br />
NML #1<br />
SOTB #83<br />
Batman #563<br />
Detective #730<br />
Azrael #50-51<br />
LOTDK #116<br />
SOTB #84<br />
Batman #564<br />
Detective #731<br />
Azrael #52-53<br />
LOTDK #117<br />
SOTB #85<br />
Batman #565<br />
Detective #732<br />
Batman Chronicles #17<br />
LOTDK #118<br />
SOTB #86<br />
Batman #566<br />
Detective #733<br />
Young Justice in NML<br />
Azrael #54-55<br />
LOTDK #119<br />
SOTB #87<br />
Batman #567<br />
Detective #734</p>
<p><strong>Volume 2</strong><br />
LOTDK #120<br />
JLA #32<br />
Azrael #56-57<br />
SOTB #88<br />
Batman #568<br />
Detective #735<br />
Nightwing #35-37<br />
Batman Chronicles #18<br />
Nightwing #38-39<br />
JLA #33<br />
LOTDK #121<br />
SOTB #89<br />
Batman #569</p>
<p><strong>Volume 3</strong><br />
Detective #736<br />
LOTDK #122<br />
SOTB #90<br />
Batman:  Harley Quinn<br />
Batman #570<br />
Detective #737<br />
LOTDK #123<br />
SOTB #91<br />
Azrael #58<br />
Batman #571<br />
Detective #738<br />
LOTDK #124<br />
SOTB #92<br />
Batman #572<br />
Detective #739<br />
LOTDK #125</p>
<p><strong>Volume 4</strong><br />
Catwoman #72-75<br />
Azrael #59<br />
SOTB #93<br />
Azrael #60<br />
Batman #573<br />
Detective #740<br />
Catwoman #76-77<br />
LOTDK #126<br />
Batman #574<br />
Detective #741<br />
Azrael #61<br />
SOTB #94</p>
<p>Good break points, story wise, are LOTDK #120 and #125.  I also try to group a lot of the &#8220;filler&#8221; issues that came out in the summer months together in one book.  (I don&#8217;t like Larry Hama&#8217;s Batman work, and I think his issues in NML are the absolute worst.  Therefore, if I can keep his involvement down to just one volume, I will.  Although I think in my personal breakdown, he creeps into two&#8230;but one of those is just for a single issue.  And I can&#8217;t just skip Hama&#8217;s issues, because at least one of them has a pivotal plot point to the overall NML arc.)</p>
<p>The early Azrael issues were a little difficult to place, because the first four are supposed to take place in a short span of time right after the bridges are blown up.  However, Batman shows up in #53.  Batman does not show up in NML proper until three months into the ordeal, as stated in the opening arc.  So I fudged it a bit.  Also, Azrael #58 is also a Day of Judgement tie-in.</p>
<p>The Catwoman issues are also a bit difficult, because they try to tie the beginning of the arc in with issues that came out in June 1999, and the end of the arc with issues that came out in November, but try to say the story only took three days, or some nonsense like that  (That&#8217;s my problem when writers and editors try to give specific timeframes &#8212; they want to say a large batch of issues takes place over a large span of time, but most of the stories contained within only cover a few days).  Catwoman #75 shares scenes with Azrael #59 and SOTB #93, so preference goes to those.</p>
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		<title>Batman: Knightfall Trilogy</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 18:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bluedevil2002]]></dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[Knightfall]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[KnightQuest]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Knightsend]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just about everything from the preludes to Knightfall through Knightsend. The story takes place over approximately six months. Bruce Waynesuffers burnout and is assaulted and crippled by Bane. Wayne is replaced as Batman by an apprentice named Jean-Paul Valley, who becomes increasingly violent and unstable, tarnishing Batman's reputation.]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post is part of the <a href="http://comicbinding.com/mapping/batman-post-crisis">complete post-Crisis timeline</a> mapping.</p>
<p><strong>Prelude to Knightfall</strong><br />
Sword of Azrael #1-4<br />
Vengeance of Bane<br />
Batman #484-487<br />
Detective #654-656<br />
Detective #657 (p. 1-2)<br />
Batman #488<br />
Detective #657 (p. 3-22)<br />
Detective #658<br />
Batman #489-490</p>
<p><em>This book is where the subplot of Batman starting to get run down begins.  Personally, I didn&#8217;t include Sword of Azrael in my book because I had the trade, and did not feel the need to rip it apart for binding. Now, if you&#8217;re really anal about your Batman continuity, LOTDK Annual #2 (marriage of Gordon and Essen) probably should go in there somewhere, because the wedding is mentioned as upcoming in the earlier issues, and in the past in later issues.  However, that story itself doesn&#8217;t tie into Knightfall, and would slow the pacing of this book down.  So I fudged it, and included in a previous volume.</em></p>
<p><strong>Knightfall</strong><br />
Batman #491<br />
Batman #492<br />
Detective #659<br />
Batman #493<br />
Detective #660<br />
Batman #494<br />
Detective #661<br />
Batman #495<br />
Detective #662<br />
Batman #496<br />
Detective #663<br />
Batman #497<br />
Detective #664<br />
Showcase ’93 #7-8 (lead stories only)<br />
Batman #498<br />
Batman: Shadow of the Bat #16-18<br />
Detective #665<br />
Batman #499<br />
Detective #666<br />
Batman #500</p>
<p><em>Contrary to what DC has tried to say since the original TPB publication, this is the correct placement of SOTB #16-18. They try to place it based on the bat signal on the cover, but if you read the comics, you&#8217;ll see why it can&#8217;t work between Detective #665 and Batman #499.</em></p>
<p><strong>KnightQuest 1</strong><br />
Turning Points #4 (optional, published in 2000)<br />
Justice League Task Force #5-6 (Search)<br />
Detective #667-668<br />
Robin #1 (pgs 1-5)<br />
Detective #669<br />
SOTB #19-20<br />
Batman #501-502<br />
SOTB #21-23 (Search)<br />
Detective #670<br />
Catwoman #6<br />
Batman #503-504<br />
Catwoman #7<br />
SOTB #24<br />
Detective #671-673</p>
<p><strong>KnightQuest 2</strong><br />
Batman #505<br />
SOTB #25<br />
Batman #506-507<br />
Legends of the Dark Knight #59-61 (Search)<br />
SOTB #26-27<br />
Detective #674<br />
Batman #508<br />
SOTB #28<br />
Detective #675<br />
Robin #7</p>
<p><em>KnightQuest may or may not fit into one book, depending on your binding preferences. It&#8217;s 36 issues, but with the thicker newsprint of the early 1990s. If it was published twenty years later, then it probably would easily fit into one book (but weigh a ton).</em></p>
<p><em>The main reason I kept the Search and Crusade issues integrated is because Az-Bats shows up in his latest costume in the LOTDK arc. DC screwed up on the covers to some issues, mistakenly labeling Crusade issues as Search. Only the 8 issues I&#8217;ve listed above are actual Search issues.</em></p>
<p><em>I chose this uneven breakpoint, because Batman #505 starts the Abbatoir and new costume subplots, which make the stories thereafter much more consistent. Prior to that, the only main theme of KnightQuest was &#8220;the adventures of Azrael as Batman&#8221;.</em></p>
<p><strong>Knightsend</strong><br />
Batman #509<br />
SOTB #29<br />
Detective #676<br />
LOTDK #62<br />
Robin #8<br />
Catwoman #12<br />
Batman #510<br />
SOTB #30<br />
Detective #677<br />
LOTDK #63<br />
Robin #9<br />
Showcase &#8217;94 #10 (first story)</p>
<p><em>The original printing of the Knightsend TPB works fine.  It does not include the Showcase story, and it cuts out a few pages of Robin #9 that are not completely relevant to the Batman plots.  It is not necessary to include any other Catwoman issues (even #13 which was labelled as Aftermath).  The Catwoman series did a good job of intersecting two stories, so if you are just reading Catwoman straight through, you get a coherent story.  Likewise, if you&#8217;re just reading Knightsend, you don&#8217;t feel like you&#8217;re missing anything from Catwoman.</em></p>
<p>Following Zero Hour, continued in <a href="http://comicbinding.com/mapping/dc/batman-prodigal">Batman: Prodigal</a>.</p>
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